Email Address: vancouvertrader @ shaw.ca
Cellphone Number: 1 604 779 9266
Images of Sunny Wong with his students:
Images of Sunny Wong Lecture at UBC:
Saturday, May 14, 2016
Want to Learn Neutral Trading Strategy?
If you are interested in learning Neutral Trading Strategy developed by Sunny Wong, here is his contact information.
Email Address: vancouvertrader @ shaw.ca
Cellphone Number: 1 604 779 9266
Images of Sunny Wong with his students:
Images of Sunny Wong Lecture at UBC:
Email Address: vancouvertrader @ shaw.ca
Cellphone Number: 1 604 779 9266
Images of Sunny Wong with his students:
Images of Sunny Wong Lecture at UBC:
A good day for Neutral Trading made possible by Sunny Wong.
Utilizing the Neutral Trading Strategy developed by Sunny Wong, a trader can profit from $500cad to $5,000cad per day depending on how the market is doing.
Not everyday a Neutral Trader skyrocket to heaven, there are also days that it is just seem fine. What is important is that a trader is having a continous profit. The picture below depict a great trading day for Sunny Wong utilizing the Neutral Trading Strategy. As you can see in the picture this event happened on May 11, 2016 at around 7:30 am PST just an hour after he logged in and start trading. A good neutral trading day can bring so much profit if the strategy is observe properly.
Sunny Wong on his strategy trade only one stock which is the ABX on tsx. He has three accounts on Virtual Broker, Interactive Broker, and Scotia Itrade as shown in the picture.
At the end of May 11, 2016 market session, Sunny Wong profit a total of $4,232 utilizing the Neutral Trading Strategy on ABX a stock on the Toronto.
He explain that today market chart for the ABX stock spiked up in the morning then droped fast in the mid day and finally recoverd up at the end of the day. For him this is a perfect Neutral Trading Day. With no effort one can make a good profit by just staying at home comfortably.
Active Neutral Trading
Posted By Sunny Wong
http://forum.vanpeople.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&action=printable&tid=65755
Sunny Wong the creator of Active Neutral Trading. Taking his account from 30k to 300k within 30 months.
Recognized by UBC.
Here is link to his introduction at UBC .
Click on the blue link to see his introduction by Dr Calvin Winters.
https://www.math.ubc.ca/Dept/Events/index.shtml?period=past&series=727
He was called Professor Sunny Wong at the UBC Lecture.
Recognized by the trading community.
Here is his meetup page.
See what other traders are saying about me.
www.meetup.com/neutraltrading
Here is a sample of his trading,
View in 3 attachments showing the 3 examples.
1) When stock goes up over 12k profit.
2) When stock goes down over 12k profit
3) When stock goes nowhere, or sideways over 1K
Active Neutral Trading is the New Generation Trading Style.
Makes profits when the markets go up.
Makes profits when the markets go down.
Makes profits when the markets go sideways.
Turning the stock market into an ATM.
Turning the stock market into a Business, at Home.
Please forward this on to anybody you think might benefit from this information. Mentoring is available.
Sunny Wong
http://forum.vanpeople.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&action=printable&tid=65755
Sunny Wong the creator of Active Neutral Trading. Taking his account from 30k to 300k within 30 months.
Recognized by UBC.
Here is link to his introduction at UBC .
Click on the blue link to see his introduction by Dr Calvin Winters.
https://www.math.ubc.ca/Dept/Events/index.shtml?period=past&series=727
He was called Professor Sunny Wong at the UBC Lecture.
Recognized by the trading community.
Here is his meetup page.
See what other traders are saying about me.
www.meetup.com/neutraltrading
Here is a sample of his trading,
View in 3 attachments showing the 3 examples.
1) When stock goes up over 12k profit.
2) When stock goes down over 12k profit
3) When stock goes nowhere, or sideways over 1K
Active Neutral Trading is the New Generation Trading Style.
Makes profits when the markets go up.
Makes profits when the markets go down.
Makes profits when the markets go sideways.
Turning the stock market into an ATM.
Turning the stock market into a Business, at Home.
Please forward this on to anybody you think might benefit from this information. Mentoring is available.
Sunny Wong
What is Neutral Trading?
Neutral Trading is the art of taking profits from the markets on a
consistent basis. Neutral
Trading does not specialize in any one area. Like, the construction trade,
Neutral Trading is “jack of all markets and master of none”. The only thing Neutral Trading masters is taking profits. Neutral Trading involves all markets such as stock, options and the
foreign exchange markets. Neutral Trading holds stock positions on the long side as well as the
short side at the same time. Profits are taken as they appear. Loses
are held and put to work until they produce a profit, at which time the trade
is exited. Holding a loss is not a liability, but it is an asset in disguise.
Several Neutral Trading strategies depend on the account holding losing
positions. The stock positions are insured with the Options
world.
Neutral Trading leverages its money three times. One
set of money will make three sets of profits, on the scalping of stocks,
on options and on back yard-forex. Neutral Trading is 100% psychology and is all about the balance of positions
and not direction. Neutral
Trading is non-technical and does not rely on complicated charting system.
No homework,
no looking for the next best stock to buy and no news or company
fundamentals. Neutral Trading only trades one stock taking profits on the up
and down side over and over again. Neutral Trading has strategies that forces
the markets to spit out profits. Neutral trading characteristics and strategies
consists of combining all styles of trading, investing, day trading, swing
trading and high frequency trading as well as being a market maker.
Why Mentoring / Coaching is
Needed
Like all
high income earners, the learning curve involves enormous amount of time
and money to produce the defined goal. Trading is no different. It
requires dedication and desire to succeed. Most wannabe traders think that by
reading a book or searching the internet, or self-taught from mistakes,
will help them to make it as a trader. Eighty
percent will loss money and not make it as a trader. If you
have no coaching, you will just make the same mistakes over and over again,
because most do not have a plan or strategy. Most starts off as
traders, then when things go wrong, they quickly turn into investors. All
I can say is “remember Nortel”. The most important in the learning curve
is a coach and mentor. Why reinvent the wheel. Neutral Trading is the
“Next Generation Trading Style”. Totally, unheard of, backwards, and unique.
Neutral Trading is not a silver bullet to ward away losses. But if
executed as practiced, it becomes a gold bullet to profits. Neutral
Trading is as close to the Holy Grail as any system will ever get.
Interview with Sunny Wong, Originator of Neutral Trading
DailyForex.com Blog
This entry was posted in Notable Traders and tagged Forex figures, Stock Market on .
Sunny Wong is a Vancouver-based trader who developed his own trading strategy after falling upon hard financial times. He is now working as a full-time trader, and earning tidy profits on a regular basis. Sunny will be presenting his trading strategy and trading live at the World Money Show Vancouver at the end of March, as he has done in years past. Read on to learn about Sunny’s unique and fascinating trading strategy.
How long have you been working as a full-time trader?
I started to daytrade just as the tech bubble was bursting. It was the worst time for any newbie to enter the markets.It was approximately 12 years ago. But my trading just became profitable in the last 4 years after I created Neutral Trading.
What did you do before you started trading?
With only a high school education I could only get into blue collar work …renovations and construction.
How did you become interested in the markets?
I retired from construction and experienced how easy it was to make money from the markets before the tech bubble burst. Then realized how much easier it was to lose money in the markets, and I had to find a strategy that would work. I lost more money on any strategy that I tried. Finally just as I was to give up. I accidently discovered and created Neutral Tading.
How did you develop this strategy?
By accident; after, trying other conventional strategies, I still lost money. I was fed up with losing money. I wanted to lose whatever I had left and would never trade again, like an alcoholic that would want to take the one last binge and drink himself to death. But then, I discovered and created Neutral Trading.
What is Neutral Trading? My strategy is basically a non-technical, non-news, non-fundamental system. I just trade one stock, instead of diversifying as conventional wisdom says. I hold long positions and short positions on the same stock, and then I sell on both sides of the fence. I take my profits early and then I hold my losses, and I work them in a system that I devised which is the s0s system. In this way, I average my buys lower and my sells higher, so that makes my break-even point a lot better than having to go all the way to the price where I entered. I combine trading equities with options and the spot USD, so I have one set of money that makes 3 sets of profits.
This makes my strategy totally different, than most conventional traders who tries to be a specialist and trade only one market like the Forex or futures market.
How long did it take for you to become profitable?
Once I figured it out, I started to make money immediately and took my account from 30K to 300K within 30 months.
How many hours do you trade each day?
I am a full-time trader, trading 6 hours per day, 5 days per week.
During what market session?
I use active, aggressive trading during the American market session and passive trading in the Forex and futures markets. Being active means I take profits (or the markets come to me and give me a profit). Aggressive means I create a profit (or I do not wait for the markets to give me a profit, I create or force the market to give me a profit). The aggressive trading is my defensive move.
What type of investment capital would work best for your trading strategy?
Depending on cost of stock or vehicle you are investing in. I trade only one stock which is Kinross Gold on the Tsx. To trade Kinross you should have a $25k minimum.
What type of platform do you use for Neutral Trading?
I have created a special excel spread sheet, which is capable of abstract accounting. I am not using any pro platforms as of now. I am working towards being more active in the futures and Forex lines, as well as working on automated robot trading. At which time I will be looking for pro platforms.
Do you offer any teaching or coaching to share your methodology (aside from MoneyShow appearances)?
Yes, I teach a class. Yes I coach and mentor individually as well. Advanced students learn my Neutral Trading by practicing on my real live money account.
What advice do you have for new traders?
Do not go directional – remain neutral. It is all about how much holding you have in the long side and how much holdings are in the short side, which is all about balance. Do not use technical indicators. The herd uses technical indicators which rely on data from the traders that trade the front line (like Neutral traders) and the technical traders gets the data which is now old data. Neutral traders create the data that the indicator uses, therefore neutral traders are one step ahead of the technical traders. Do not listen to the news, it is usually too late and by the time the trader hears it, it is old news. Trade what you see in your account, not what you think will happen. When we think, we become normal, and just like the normal, 8 out of 10 will lose money.
Saturday, May 7, 2016
I just witnessed Sunny Wong in action doing live trading and having a consistent successful trade utilizing the Neutral Trading Strategy.
I found Sunny Wong Neutral Trading when searching the net for day
trading ideas and found his site at http://www.meetup.com/neutraltrading/about/
I just witnessed Sunny Wong in action doing live trading using his Neutral Trading Strategy on May 5, 2016. In less than 2 hours of trading, he almost have a profit of nearly $2,000 CAD. He asked me "how many trades did I place"? I answered, "You did so many that I lost track". That besides him talking to me and not fully focused on the trading screen, and sharing some information about his trading and the spreadsheet that he developed, for Neutral Trading. He told me that he can go beyond what he already profit if he was just in full concentration with his trading. What amaze me is the consistency of him having a successful trade, and it only took him a couple of minutes to a half an hour to profit on those trades.
Another amazing eye opener for me, was his s0s recovery system. He showed me an example where he was in a loss of around $7000 which was an option transaction that he forgot about. Using his "s0s recovery” he turned the Negative $7k into a positive $300 profit, within 2 days. I would not believe this if I did not see it with my own eyes.
Looking at him, I feel that he was so relax and stress free while trading, which is really important as a trader so that he can make a good and wise decision before executing the trades.
I noticed his spreadsheet was in real time, which he developed to suit his Neutral Trading Strategy.
Some unique features I noticed are:
1. It is receiving live feed data of the trades that he just executed
from the online broker to his excel spreadsheet thru DDE or Dynamic Data
Exchange. This is done by copying the trade information from the web and pasting
it to the excel spreadsheet. By doing this, it allow the spreadsheet to auto
update itself with real time information concerning the trade. On the
spreadsheet itself, Sunny set up a dinging sound to notify him that the trade
was already in the money and he set it up once it reach at least $25 CAD. This
allow him to do other things than looking on the trade consistently.
2. The spreadsheet is so easy to navigate and very user friendly
for traders. He set up some buttons on it which made it semi-automatic
after the copy and paste action. I was able to follow Sunny as he
demonstrated how to use his spreadsheet.
3. The spreadsheet is so good and helpful for traders because it
will allow you to tract your current and past trades. Any loses can also be
tract and work on to become a winner, thru his s0s recovery methods.
4. Every entry on his Neutral Trading spreadsheet has an id number
on it which references the real trade in his brokers account.
I am very thankful of Sunny for allowing me to witness him doing a live trading. This is my first time to see real life trader in action. I appreciate him for the hospitality he have shown. I am so grateful to meet a knowledgeable trader. I am hoping someday to be a successful Neutral Trader just like Sunny and use all of his Neutral Trading Strategy.
Dave Manriquez
Thursday, April 28, 2016
Introducing Neutral Trading Strategy develop by Sunny Wong
Introduction
Lost 250K After my depression 5 years later By accident I found the golden grail I found how to take money from the stock market every day. Like fishing Throw a net upstream and drop a net down stream and you will catch the gold fish in between
What Sunny is saying about this Meetup Group
Great casual meetup at the Pink Pearl Restaurant for dim sum today. We had a full table with lots of food. Everybody had a great time and met new friends. Till the next get together..... Happy Trading Sunny.
ALL ABOUT SUNNY WONG:
About Me:
Sunny Wong is my name and making Money is my game.
However, in 2001 it was more like, Sunny Wong is my name and losing money is my pain.
I am an immigrant and came to Canada when I was 4,
My education is high school grade 12 only, no university or any post secondary.
Started a family at age 20 and worked double jobs for most of my life. Last career was in the construction trades.
I am just your normal middle class person.
in 2001 I lost a quarter of a million dollars, just 2 years after I retired, at age 50. I lost it mostly in mutual funds. At the time, I was told by my financial adviser (so called expert at handling other peoples money) .....that mutual funds will always rebound. Have no fear. unfortunately for me the high tech mutual fund he put me into did disappear and poof, there goes my money. It totally destroyed me and threw me into a tail spin for about 5 years. My mind was reduced to ruble, almost like the homeless. I lost my integrity and all my (so called) friends disappeared. For five years I could not sleep, could not eat because I felt there was a lump stuck between my throat and my stomach. I have never cried in my life, but that all changed, I now cry almost every day. I would be driving and stopped at a red light and tears would roll down my face and i would have to pull over on the side of the road and have a cry, before i could start to drive again. Losing your money and your style of life at my age will destroy most marriages, and will throw you into a suicidal state of mind. I am fortunate to have 2 children that supported me financially during that time. Years went by and after my tears dried up I started to thinks and reorganize my life and my wife's life. During this time of great depression for both of us, We also lost our dads. First my Dad past away and a few years later my father in law past away. Then one of my dogs passed away.
Next, Stage:
My daughter gets married and moves out of the house, My Son Also decides to move out and now we are empty nester's. We now decide to sell the house and live in a basement suite and live out the rest of our lives on the proceeds of the house. How ever, the real estate market was down and by selling the house, I would have lost another hundred thousand dollars......that would be more pain. So decided not to sell the house and rent it. By working on the preparations of working on the house for rental purposes, it took my mind off of feeling sorry for myself and I started to feel better. Got a mantenance job with a apartment block and started to heal myself, mentally. After a couple of years, I started to fee better and started my road of recovery........mentally.
Next Stage:
Mentally, I was feeling good and managed to save some money from work, dumpster diving and bottle picking. Buying and selling through craigslist.
Something in my mind bothered me very much. It was the following.......If i can lose so much money in the markets via mutual funds, then why can't I make money from the stock market . I convinced my wife to let me try trading.......daytrading........OH, MY, GOD.......I lost more money.
I lost this money on my own efforts of trying to make money, so the feeling was not the same as my original feeling. No mater what I tried, I could not make consistent money. It would be, one step forward and one step backwards, some times 2 steps backwards. Then one day, I had enough. I said to my wife, 'I QUIT" on that day, I wanted to cut the pain, admit I am a loser and quit trading stocks, because I was bagging my head against the wall and could not make consistent profits. Again, I convinced my wife that I will lose the rest of my trading account on purpose and then I will stop trading and rid my head of the idea of making money from daytrading. I started to do everything backwards, every golden rule of daytrading that I learned. I desperately, now wanted to reduce my daytrading account to"0" . To my surprise, I started to make money. So I now see trading in a different angle. By, accident, My Neutral Trading Strategy was born.
Final Stage:
30.300.30 what is this? Some kind of an IP address? No....it is my golden event.
From 30K to 300K within 30 months. My Neutral Trading Style took of like a rocket and by adding more unconventional ways to my trading style. I created a way to "TAKE", not make money from the markets every day. Every trader wants to find the holy grail of trading. I, however, have found the golden grail. I have several students that I have mentored, that have quit there jobs and are now full time traders. I am so bitter about the markets, that I want to show as many people as possible how to get even with the markets and get back what they lost and then so. The markets is an evil place and it seems to steal many peoples money. . For a one on one introduction and watch me trade , you must book an appointment with me. call 604 800 2839 or email: vancouvertrader@shaw.ca
Conclusion:
Why does most people think that investing is ok and that gambling is bad and daytrading is stupid or down right dumb all you are doing is flushing your money down the toilet?
Why do most people turn to a professional "so called" financial planner, or "so called" stock advisor?
If they are so good, then why are they working for a commission or salary.
Why would they not be at home and trading their own money and make a $2,000 or more per day. I am not a so called professional and I can make from $500 to $1000 to $2000 per day consistantly when ever I chose. I do not let the markets control me. Neutral trading controls the market, which enables me to take as much money from the markets as I want and that is all dependant on how much work I want to put in per day to achieve the amount of profit I want.
I was an investor back in 2001, and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY".
I was an investor back in 2001, and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the equities that controlled the results of the mutual funds I was invested in.
I was a gambler and I went to a casino and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY".
I was a gambler and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the one armed bandit.
I was a daytrader and I was directional and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY"
I was a daytrader and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the markets.
Did you notice the "I LOST ALL MY MONEY" and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" appeared in being an investor, gambler and daytrader.
So.......ask yourself what is the differance.
The answer: There is no differance.
There is no differance being an invester to being a gambler to being a daytrader.
They are all the same. Being an investor or being a gambler or being a daytrader is no differant, if you follow the old school of thought and wisdom.
All the so called golden rules were created when your grand parets were in diapers.
The world has changed, the world today is upside down, backwards, contraversal, values have changed, and the most important new inventions.
But..............Why do 80% of the trading population still lose money in the markets.
Answer: they are still stuck in their grandparents ways . The old school of investing, gambling and daytrading is still being used and what it results in is like a herd of sheep all walking towards the cliff.
So.....along with the world of changes the modern day person who wants to take money from the markets have to do it differant.
I could talk for 2 days on this topic, so contact me and I will elaborate and tell you more.
IF......you want to be differant and want to pick my brain more.....
contact me:
Sunny
vancouvertrader @ shaw.ca
1 604 779 9266
Sunny Wong is my name and making Money is my game.
However, in 2001 it was more like, Sunny Wong is my name and losing money is my pain.
I am an immigrant and came to Canada when I was 4,
My education is high school grade 12 only, no university or any post secondary.
Started a family at age 20 and worked double jobs for most of my life. Last career was in the construction trades.
I am just your normal middle class person.
in 2001 I lost a quarter of a million dollars, just 2 years after I retired, at age 50. I lost it mostly in mutual funds. At the time, I was told by my financial adviser (so called expert at handling other peoples money) .....that mutual funds will always rebound. Have no fear. unfortunately for me the high tech mutual fund he put me into did disappear and poof, there goes my money. It totally destroyed me and threw me into a tail spin for about 5 years. My mind was reduced to ruble, almost like the homeless. I lost my integrity and all my (so called) friends disappeared. For five years I could not sleep, could not eat because I felt there was a lump stuck between my throat and my stomach. I have never cried in my life, but that all changed, I now cry almost every day. I would be driving and stopped at a red light and tears would roll down my face and i would have to pull over on the side of the road and have a cry, before i could start to drive again. Losing your money and your style of life at my age will destroy most marriages, and will throw you into a suicidal state of mind. I am fortunate to have 2 children that supported me financially during that time. Years went by and after my tears dried up I started to thinks and reorganize my life and my wife's life. During this time of great depression for both of us, We also lost our dads. First my Dad past away and a few years later my father in law past away. Then one of my dogs passed away.
Next, Stage:
My daughter gets married and moves out of the house, My Son Also decides to move out and now we are empty nester's. We now decide to sell the house and live in a basement suite and live out the rest of our lives on the proceeds of the house. How ever, the real estate market was down and by selling the house, I would have lost another hundred thousand dollars......that would be more pain. So decided not to sell the house and rent it. By working on the preparations of working on the house for rental purposes, it took my mind off of feeling sorry for myself and I started to feel better. Got a mantenance job with a apartment block and started to heal myself, mentally. After a couple of years, I started to fee better and started my road of recovery........mentally.
Next Stage:
Mentally, I was feeling good and managed to save some money from work, dumpster diving and bottle picking. Buying and selling through craigslist.
Something in my mind bothered me very much. It was the following.......If i can lose so much money in the markets via mutual funds, then why can't I make money from the stock market . I convinced my wife to let me try trading.......daytrading........OH, MY, GOD.......I lost more money.
I lost this money on my own efforts of trying to make money, so the feeling was not the same as my original feeling. No mater what I tried, I could not make consistent money. It would be, one step forward and one step backwards, some times 2 steps backwards. Then one day, I had enough. I said to my wife, 'I QUIT" on that day, I wanted to cut the pain, admit I am a loser and quit trading stocks, because I was bagging my head against the wall and could not make consistent profits. Again, I convinced my wife that I will lose the rest of my trading account on purpose and then I will stop trading and rid my head of the idea of making money from daytrading. I started to do everything backwards, every golden rule of daytrading that I learned. I desperately, now wanted to reduce my daytrading account to"0" . To my surprise, I started to make money. So I now see trading in a different angle. By, accident, My Neutral Trading Strategy was born.
Final Stage:
30.300.30 what is this? Some kind of an IP address? No....it is my golden event.
From 30K to 300K within 30 months. My Neutral Trading Style took of like a rocket and by adding more unconventional ways to my trading style. I created a way to "TAKE", not make money from the markets every day. Every trader wants to find the holy grail of trading. I, however, have found the golden grail. I have several students that I have mentored, that have quit there jobs and are now full time traders. I am so bitter about the markets, that I want to show as many people as possible how to get even with the markets and get back what they lost and then so. The markets is an evil place and it seems to steal many peoples money. . For a one on one introduction and watch me trade , you must book an appointment with me. call 604 800 2839 or email: vancouvertrader@shaw.ca
Conclusion:
Why does most people think that investing is ok and that gambling is bad and daytrading is stupid or down right dumb all you are doing is flushing your money down the toilet?
Why do most people turn to a professional "so called" financial planner, or "so called" stock advisor?
If they are so good, then why are they working for a commission or salary.
Why would they not be at home and trading their own money and make a $2,000 or more per day. I am not a so called professional and I can make from $500 to $1000 to $2000 per day consistantly when ever I chose. I do not let the markets control me. Neutral trading controls the market, which enables me to take as much money from the markets as I want and that is all dependant on how much work I want to put in per day to achieve the amount of profit I want.
I was an investor back in 2001, and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY".
I was an investor back in 2001, and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the equities that controlled the results of the mutual funds I was invested in.
I was a gambler and I went to a casino and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY".
I was a gambler and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the one armed bandit.
I was a daytrader and I was directional and "I LOST ALL MY MONEY"
I was a daytrader and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" of the markets.
Did you notice the "I LOST ALL MY MONEY" and "I WAS NOT IN CONTROL" appeared in being an investor, gambler and daytrader.
So.......ask yourself what is the differance.
The answer: There is no differance.
There is no differance being an invester to being a gambler to being a daytrader.
They are all the same. Being an investor or being a gambler or being a daytrader is no differant, if you follow the old school of thought and wisdom.
All the so called golden rules were created when your grand parets were in diapers.
The world has changed, the world today is upside down, backwards, contraversal, values have changed, and the most important new inventions.
But..............Why do 80% of the trading population still lose money in the markets.
Answer: they are still stuck in their grandparents ways . The old school of investing, gambling and daytrading is still being used and what it results in is like a herd of sheep all walking towards the cliff.
So.....along with the world of changes the modern day person who wants to take money from the markets have to do it differant.
I could talk for 2 days on this topic, so contact me and I will elaborate and tell you more.
IF......you want to be differant and want to pick my brain more.....
contact me:
Sunny
vancouvertrader @ shaw.ca
1 604 779 9266
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